UpperOntologySummit - Conveners Conference Call 2006-03-08

Call Details

• Date: Wednesday, Mar. 8, 2006
• Start Time: 16:00 UTC / 8:00 AM PST / 11:00 AM EST / 5:00PM CET (World Clock)
• Expected Call Duration: ~1.0 hour
• Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa, US)
• Participant Access Code: "87376#"

Attendees

• Attended:
  • Pat Cassidy (chair)
  • Peter P. Yim
  • Steve Ray
  • Matthew West
  • Leo Obrst
  • Michael Grüninger
  • Nicola Guarino
  • Adam Pease
  • Chris Menzel
  • John F. Sowa
  • John Bateman

• Expecting:
  • Bill Andersen
  • Jim Schoening
  • Mills Davis
  • Brand Niemann
  • Dagobert Soergel
  • Aldo Gangemi
  • Chris Welty
  • Doug Lenat
  • Jerry Hobbs
  • John Walker
  • Kurt Conrad
  • Mark Musen
  • Ryan Kohl
  • SergeiNirenberg
  • Werner Ceusters

• Regrets:
  • Michael Uschold (at SemTech2006)
  • Maria Zemankova
  • Barry Smith

Agenda (items to be discussed) Ideas

• goal of this call: reach a degree of consensus on the communique and on the issues that stand before us on connecting the ontologies

• Wiki Pages for discussion of UOS
  • UOS main page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit
  • UOS Discussion page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/UOSdiscussionPage
  • Joint Comunique Draft: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/JointCommuniqueDraft
  • Extended remarks for Joint Communique: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/ExtendedRemarks

• review UOS and prep sessions agenda and make sure everyone knows what they need to be prepare and submit prior to the sessions.
• ...(please add suggested items here)...

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

• Pat Cassidy takes the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

• Peter P. Yim volunteered to take notes

3) Roll-call of participants - see above

4) Discuss purpose of the UOS

• UpperOntologySummit
• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UOSdiscussionPage
• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/JointCommuniqueDraft
• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/ExtendedRemarks

• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UpperOntologyBenefits
• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UpperOntologyChallenges

5) Register suggestions

6) ... add items here and below ...

7) Discussion:

• Adam: why 8 custodians? (some are extensions of the same upper ontology, I see only 3 main UO's)
  • we need to focus to make sure we aren't just getting a few smart people together to just talk
  • suggest we focus the discussion to the 3 UO's (Cyc, SUMO & DOLCE) on how they can be merged, or if that is not feasible, how we could address the issues ... (Adam: please clean this up ... and express your thoughts at the relevant lists or pages named under 4 above.)
• Pat: note that this is the 50th anniversary of AI ... they were addressing much broader issues then
• Steve: ref the 5 points of the UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/JointCommuniqueDraft, what can we agree to in terms of intent (first 3 points) and document approaches that may be feasible
• Pat: we may need to be unanimous ... maybe a majority outcome and a minority report is prper too ... we just want to inform the public and be honest with it
• Nicola: I essentially agree with the first 4 points
• Michael: point 5 is for us to explore ... we need to investigate, in addition to just expressing opinions
• John F. Sowa: starting with terms most people alreaday agree with is a good starting point
  • Pat: at a minimum, we should axiomatize to disambiguate
    • Nicola: this point (axiomatization) should come out clearly too

• some relevant ongoing work has already begun
  • PSL & Cyc
  • DOLCE & ISO 15926

8) UOS and prep sessions agenda review:

• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_14
  • Leo: aim to have the (near-final draft) joint communique before us prior to this meeting
    • 3/14 morning - custodians/panelists have a few (max 10 min) minutes each to outline the issues (feasibility, utility, ...) from their perspective with respect to an interrelated-UO, joint communique and beyond
    • 3/14 afternoon - all to review show stoppers and address them
    • 3/14 late afternooon - adopt the final joint communique, discuss next steps
    • 3/14 after the meeting - press interviews
    • 3/14 evening - (no host) dinner together

• UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UosApplicationDialogMeeting_2006_03_15

• UpperOntologySummitMeeting_2006_03_15

10) Next meeting date and adjournment

• Next meeting will be session 1 on Tue 2006.03.14 at 8:30am~10:00noon EST
  • see: UpperOntologySummit/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_08/UosConvenerMeeting_2006_03_14
• call adjourned 9:15 am PST / 12:15 pm EST

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above minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2006.03.08-09:15 am PST