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OpenOntologyRepository: "Common User Interface" Discussion Session - Tue 2013_09_17

Session Topic: Developing a Common UI Across Disparate OOR Instances

Session Chair: KenBaclawski

Opening Briefing: DanielCoutoVale (slides)

This is an open discussion session ... We hope stewards and users of current and developing ontology repositories (folks from Ontohub, COLORE, and various BioPortal-based OOR nodes ... and other domain ontology repositories, like, for Standards, SpacePortal, Financial Industry, etc.) to join us in this session, share their thoughts and help develop a consensus regarding a common user interface across disparate OOR instances.

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, 17-Sep-2013
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Agenda Ideas

  • Towards a Common UI
    • Having a shared data model
    • Implementing the same set of operation over the data
    • Agreeing on default data component arrangements
    • Reusing the same widgets

In-session Resources

Agenda & Proceedings

Archives:

1. Meeting called to order:

  • Ken Baclawski took the chair and welcome everyone
  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to collate the notes, but urged everyone to capture their thoughts and document them on the chat board, as usual.
  • review and adopt agenda
  • Urgent items or quick announcements

2. Roll Call:

  • welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)

3. Key discussion:

3.1 Opening brief - "Ontology Repositories: UI Design Considerations" - DanielCoutoVale (slides)

3.2 Open discussion: developing a Common UI across disparate OOR instances

  • Towards a Common UI
    • Having a shared data model
    • Implementing the same set of operation over the data
    • Agreeing on default data component arrangements
    • Reusing the same widgets
    • presenting the "Common UI"
    • what is the minimum set of "Common UI" we want to implement across disparate OOR instances

4. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

Chat transcript from room: oor_20130917

2013-09-17 GMT-08:00

[6:58] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

OpenOntologyRepository: "Common User Interface" Discussion Session - Tue 2013_09_17

Session Topic: Developing a Common UI Across Disparate OOR Instances

Session Chair: Ken Baclawski

Opening Briefing: DanielCoutoVale

Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_09_17

Attendees: Ken Baclawski (chair), DanielCoutoVale (speaker), Aleksandra Sojic, Bob Smith, Michael Grüninger, Oliver Kutz,

Peter P. Yim (scribe), Todd Schneider

Proceeddings:

[7:04] Peter P. Yim: Daniel: we lost you on the voice line ... are you re-connecting?

[7:04] DanielCoutoVale: I'm online! But my call is falling continuously.

[7:05] DanielCoutoVale: can you hear me now?

[7:05] Peter P. Yim: no we cannot hear you ... I can also see that your connection isn't holding

[7:07] Peter P. Yim: == Ken Baclawski starts the session ...

[7:11] Peter P. Yim: == Open brief - DanielCoutoVale presenting ...

[7:12] Peter P. Yim: slides are at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_09_17#nid3XUC

... shared screen (VNC server) also available

[7:13] Michael Grüninger: Where is COLORE?

[7:16] Todd Schneider: WordNet isn't an ontology, even Christiane Fellbaum agrees with this view.

[7:18] Peter P. Yim: (for the archives) Daniel will update slides to include COLORE on slide#3

[7:32] Peter P. Yim: @Daniel - slide#8 ... possible typo - you probably meant "90%" (right above the graphics)

[7:35] Peter P. Yim: @Daniel - slide#9 too (typo?)

[7:46] Todd Schneider: Don't we need to have some understanding as to what a user expects to do (when using the UI)?

[7:51] Ken Baclawski: @Todd: There are excellent UI development methodologies when the stakeholders are actively involved

in the development process, but we don't have this. So it is unclear how we would obtain such an understanding.

[7:52] Todd Schneider: There is any user feedback we can glean from BioPortal?

[8:05] Michael Grüninger: unfortunately, I need to leave now

[8:07] Peter P. Yim: we should take into consideration the Content Accessibility Guidelines - such as,

... US Section 508 standards ( http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?fuseAction=stdsSum ) ... or,

... W3C WCAG 2.0 ( http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/ )

[8:13] Todd Schneider: Decompose the use cases into appropriate widgets supporting the particular fucntions.

[8:15] Todd Schneider: Peter, the functionality across different sites should be 'common'. Those functions

can be derived from the use cases.

[8:17] DanielCoutoVale: By using a Client-Side UI, one could use the same page to access several repositories.

[8:17] Peter P. Yim: @Todd - for the purpose of today's meeting, the focus is more on the UI ("look and feel"?) than

features and functionalities, I think

[8:19] Todd Schneider: Peter, I think look and feel are highly dependent on the functions or actions to be used or executed.

[8:20] Peter P. Yim: I agree with Aleksandra that we should just work on the very common ones (at least for today's exercise)

- browse, upload, search, etc.

[8:25] Peter P. Yim: [action] Daniel will create a google-doc to start collaboratively developing the list of "Common UI" elements

we will implement ... share this with everyone who is at today's call, plus Mike Dean and Till Mossakowski

[8:25] Todd Schneider: Have to go. Thank you Daniel, very nice analysis.

[8:26] DanielCoutoVale: Document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kvJm5x1F1BBtize_aV3upHdfkvAJ464EZwniOQi0GeY/edit?usp=sharing

[8:30] Peter P. Yim: I suggest we focus on getting our (OOR) exercise done by just engaging members/instances on this team

- i.e. OOR-sandbox/production; COLORE & Ontohub ... trying to engage more people will be a challenge and may just slow things down

[8:32] Peter P. Yim: with these three groups, we want to confirm their (a) willingness, and (b) feasibility, in terms

of implementing a "common UI"

[8:31] Peter P. Yim: great meeting!

[8:31] Peter P. Yim: Thank you very much, Daniel

[8:31] Ken Baclawski: Thanks again, Daniel.

[8:33] Ken Baclawski: @Peter: Engaging other groups for some feedback would help advertise the OOR as well as get

a better understanding of the use cases for the OOR. If they are not involved in the development of the sandbox

then it should not slow it down.

[8:39] Peter P. Yim: @Ken - I agree ... I just don't want these other on the critical path, or else we will

probably not be moving forward quickly enough -(remembering that we promised ourselves to try to get

this "common UI" implemented in 3 months, back at our 2013.06.18 meeting

- see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_06_18#nid3U9U )

[8:31] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 8:31am PDT --

-- end in-session chat-transcript --

5. Action items:

  • DanielCoutoVale will create a google-doc to start collaboratively developing the list of "Common UI" elements that we will implement ... (share this with everyone who is at today's call, plus Mike Dean and TillMossakowski)

6. Any Other Business: ... (deferred to the next meeting)

  • ...

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • next Meeting
    • Tue 2013.10.01 - regular (monthly) OOR Team planning & admin meeting
    • Tue 2013.10.08 - "Meta-Ontology for Ontology Categories" - co-chairs: Till Mossakowski & Michael Grüninger
  • regular meeting start-times will be: 7:00am PDT / 10:00am EDT / 4:00pm CEST / 3:00pm BST / 1400 UTC
  • 1st Tuesdays of each month will be for OOR team regular monthly confcall - for admin/planning
  • 2nd Tuesdays of each month will be for OOR-hackathon
  • ... please mark your calendars and make sure you can come!
  • Call adjourned at: 8:31 am PDT

--

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2013.09.17-8:55am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03
    • 2012_07_17 - Tuesday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_07_17
    • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-4: "Common Logic" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30



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