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Ontology Summit 2014 session-12: Synthesis-II: Technical Tracks and Hackathon - Thu 2014-04-03

  • Summit Theme: OntologySummit2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"
  • Session Topic: OntologySummit2014 Synthesis-II on the Technical Tracks and the Hackathon
  • Session Co-chairs: Dr. Leo Obrst and Professor MichaelGruninger

Program:

  • Professor MichaelGruninger - Semantic Web and Big Data Meets Applied Ontology - Thoughts on Summit 2014 ... overview slides
  • Dr. GaryBergCross, Ms. Andrea Westerinen, Mr. MikeBennett (in absentia) - Track A: Common Reusable Semantic Content - Synthesis-II ... slides
  • Dr. Christoph Lange, Professor AlanRector (in absentia) - Track B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - Synthesis-II ... slides
  • Dr. Matthew West, Professor Pascal Hitzler, Professor KrzysztofJanowicz (in absentia) - Track C: Overcoming Ontology Engineering Bottlenecks - Synthesis-II ... slides
  • Professor Anne Thessen, Professor KenBaclawski (in absentia) - Track D: Tackling the Variety Problem in Big Data - Synthesis-II ... slides
  • Mr. Anatoly Levenchuk, Mr. DanBrickley (in absentia) - Track E: A Summary Report on the Hackathon Projects, especially on what's pertinent to the Communique ... slides
  • Dr. Leo Obrst (moderator) - Open Discussion on ideas to optimally fit the above material into the adopted Communique outline, and the positions we want to assume in this year's communique ... Communique Outline

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Abstract

OntologySummit2014 Session-12: "Synthesis-II" - overview slides

This is our 9th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by Ontolog, NIST, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors.

Since the beginnings of the Semantic Web, ontologies have played key roles in the design and deployment of new semantic technologies. Yet over the years, the level of collaboration between the Semantic Web and Applied Ontology communities has been much less than expected. Within Big Data applications, ontologies appear to have had little impact.

This year's Ontology Summit is an opportunity for building bridges between the Semantic Web, Linked Data, Big Data, and Applied Ontology communities. On the one hand, the Semantic Web, Linked Data, and Big Data communities can bring a wide array of real problems (such as performance and scalability challenges and the variety problem in Big Data) and technologies (automated reasoning tools) that can make use of ontologies. On the other hand, the Applied Ontology community can bring a large body of common reusable content (ontologies) and ontological analysis techniques. Identifying and overcoming ontology engineering bottlenecks is critical for all communities.

Ontology Summit 2014 will pose and address the primary challenges in these areas of interaction among the different communities. The Summit activities will bring together insights and methods from these different communities, synthesize new insights, and disseminate knowledge across field boundaries.

At the Launch Event on 16 Jan 2014, the organizing team has provided an overview of the program, and how we will be framing the discourse - namely, to pursue that along four different content tracks that address different aspects of the issue at hand.

In today's session, we will roll up what has transpired in the Ontology Summit 2014 proceedings so far, after two rounds of technical panel sessions that revolved around the four aspects, as designated in the foci for Tracks A, B, C & D, as well as the delivery of Six (6) Hackathon Projects (our Track E effort). Track champions will present the syntheses of the discourse of each of the four content tracks and a summary of the Hackathon effort. Write-ups of the syntheses will contribute to what will go into this year's Communique.

One of our co-lead Editors will then moderate an open discussion, among the Track Champions and All Participants, on how we can optimally fit the syntheses material into the adopted Communique outline, and aim towards arriving at consensus positions that we would want to assume in this year's communique, as a community.

More details about this Ontology Summit is available at: OntologySummit2014 (homepage for this summit)

Track Syntheses Material

Agenda

OntologySummit2014 - Panel Session-12

  • Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call
  • 1. Opening and General assessment and what's next (co-chairs: Michael Grüninger, LeoObrst) [5 min.] ... [ slides ]
  • 2. Track Synthesis II (presentation of the interim deliverables by one of the co-champions of each track) [10 min/track]
    • 2.1 Track A: Common Reusable Semantic Content Synthesis-1 (GaryBergCross*, Andrea Westerinen, MikeBennett)
    • 2.2 Track B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques Synthesis-1 (ChristophLange*, AlanRector)
    • 2.3 Track C: Overcoming Ontology Engineering Bottlenecks Synthesis-1 (MatthewWest*, Pascal Hitzler, KrzysztofJanowicz)
    • 2.4 Track D: Tackling the Variety Problem in Big Data - Synthesis-I Synthesis-1 (AnneThessen*, KenBaclawski)
  • 3. Summary Report from the (Track-E) Hackathon Projects (AnatolyLevenchuk*, DanBrickley) [10 min.]
  • 4. Q&A and Open Discussion: developing and building consensus on our Communique (moderators: Leo Obrst, MichaelGruninger) [~45 min.] ... please refer to process above
  • 5. Summary/wrap-up/announcements [5 min.]

Proceedings

Please refer to the above

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

Chat transcript from room: summit_20140403

2014-04-03 GMT-08:00 [PDT]

[9:12] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

Ontology Summit 2014 session-12: Synthesis-II: Technical Tracks and Hackathon - Thu 2014-04-03

Summit Theme: Ontology Summit 2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"

Session Topic: Ontology Summit 2014 Synthesis-II on the Technical Tracks and the Hackathon

Session Co-chairs: Dr. Leo Obrst and Professor Michael Grüninger

Program:

  • Professor Michael Grüninger - "Semantic Web and Big Data Meets Applied Ontology - Thoughts on Summit 2014"

- Track A: Common Reusable Semantic Content - Synthesis-II

- Track B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - Synthesis-II

- Track C: Overcoming Ontology Engineering Bottlenecks - Synthesis-II

- Track D: Tackling the Variety Problem in Big Data - Synthesis-II

- Track E: A Summary Report on the Hackathon Projects, especially on what's pertinent to the Communique

  • Dr. Leo Obrst (moderator) - Open Discussion on ideas to optimally fit the above material into the adopted

Communique outline, and the positions we want to assume in this year's communique

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Attendees: Aleksandra Sojic, Alex Shkotin, Amanda Vizedom, Anatoly Levenchuk, Andrea Westerinen,

Anne Thessen, Bobbin Teegarden, Calvin Liu, Carmen Chui, Christi Kapp, Christoph Lange, Conrad Beaulieu,

Dennis Pierson, Dominique Mariko, Ed Bernot, Francesca Quattri, Frank Olken, GaryBergCross, Harold Boley,

Jack Ring, Joanne Luciano, Ken Baclawski, Lamar Henderson, Leo Obrst, Les Morgan, Liana Kiff,

Marcela Vegetti, Maria Herrero, Mark Linehan, Martin Davtyan, Matthew West, Michael Grüninger, Mike Dean,

Mike Riben, Nancy Wiegand, Peter P. Yim, Ram D. Sriram, Richard Martin, Siew Lam, Simon Spero, Sunday Ojo,

Terry Longstreth, Till Mossakowski, Torsten Hahmann, Victor Agroskin,

Err:510

[9:29] anonymous morphed into Carmen Chui

[9:29] Alex Shkotin: Hi All!

[9:29] anonymous1 morphed into Siew Lam

[9:32] Ed Bernot: Good day/night!

[9:32] GaryBergCross: Hello, Track A is here...

[9:33] anonymous1 morphed into Conrad Beaulieu

[9:33] anonymous morphed into Les Morgan

[9:34] anonymous morphed into Francesca Quattri

[9:36] anonymous morphed into Mark Linehan

[9:37] anonymous1 morphed into Lamar Henderson

[9:37] Peter P. Yim: == Michael Grüninger starts session on behalf of the co-chairs ... see slides under:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_03#nid4B8Z

[9:46] Alex Shkotin: If we split ontology to theory and model. Theory can't be Big. Model can.

[9:48] anonymous morphed into Bobbin Teegarden

[9:49] Frank Olken: Do we need to register for the face to face meeting of Ontology Summit 2014?

[9:49] GaryBergCross: Yes

[9:59] Leo Obrst: @FrankOlken [12:49]: yes, see:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/WorkshopRegistration

[9:49] anonymous morphed into Joanne Luciano

[9:51] Matthew West: Communique Outline: Barriers and Bottlenecks: I suggest adding opportunities for

automation (a way of overcoming bottlenecks).

[9:52] Michael Grüninger: @MatthewWest [9:51] yes, we should have a subsection on overcoming the bottlenecks

[9:51] Peter P. Yim: == GaryBergCross presenting on "Common Reusable Semantic Content: Synthesis-II" on behalf of the Track-A co-champions ...

[9:58] anonymous morphed into Dominique Mariko

[9:58] anonymous1 morphed into Calvin Liu

[10:00] Amanda Vizedom: Slide #9 Condition 2: that "standard metadata for reuse be defined" -- is

precisely the condition that the VOCREF hackathon aimed to address, by getting the foundations in

place of an open-source, collaboratively developed ontology of the wide range of metadata that

people may need in order to determine whether a given ontology (or other semantic resource) is

reusable for their purpose.

[10:02] GaryBergCross: @Amanda [10:00] comment - Great to know the hackathon will help contribute to

understanding on the ontology metadata.

[10:03] Amanda Vizedom: @Gary [10:02] We hope so!

[10:07] Andrea Westerinen: @AmandaVizedom [10:00] That is why I added the slide about VOCREF. Sorry

that I was not online at the time. Blame Comcast :-)

[10:09] Amanda Vizedom: Andrea Westerinen [10:07] Gary was necessarily going very quickly & touched

really only on the meta-characteristics of the hackathon approach, not so much the content; I added

the comment at [10:00] just to supplement. :-)

[10:00] Peter P. Yim: == Christoph Lange presenting on "Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and

Techniques: Synthesis-II" on behalf of the Track-B co-champions ...

[10:03] Peter P. Yim: @ChristophLange - [re: slide#2] I don't think we can equate "heavyweight

approaches to semantic web services have failed" with "heavyweight approaches will fail ... " (as

you verbally pronounced)

[10:07] Torsten Hahmann: Regarding ChristophLange's "heavyweight" comment and PeterYim's correction,

I would go even further: does the observation that heavyweight ontologies are currently not used

really means they have failed? Maybe we just haven't found the right way of using them yet?

[10:11] Christoph Lange: Re @PeterYim, @TorstenHahmann about "heavyweight": OntoIOp (about

which I'm biased of course because I'm involved) hopes to strike a balance between "lightweight"

and "heavyweight" in that it adopts lightweight linked data principles but also enables translations

across heavyweight ontology languages.

[10:12] Leo Obrst: @[10:07] Torsten Hahmann: I think richer (heavyweight) ontologies are very useful

for certain kinds of applications, but in general not for online linked-data uses, because of many

issues, including the temporal cost of computing/reasoning on the fly, etc.

[10:19] Torsten Hahmann: @ChristophLange and @LeoOrbst: I certainly agree: rich ontologies will not

solve all linked data problems, e.g., rich ontologies are not suitable for on-the-fly reasoning (as

you mentioned). But they may still have their place in the larger setting of big & linked data. For

example, they can be useful as tools to integrate & generate appropriate lightweight schemas (from

rich ontologies).

[10:19] Torsten Hahmann: As Christoph mentioned, striking the right balance is important.

[10:09] GaryBergCross: I didn't use the phrase lightweight ontologies in the track A synthesis, but we should.

[10:06] ... Andrea Westerinen: Sorry to be late. Finally got my cable modem to work for more than 5 mins.

[10:08] ... Marcela Vegetti: Sorry for my late join. Is there any problem with skype joinconference?

I can't connect to the audio session

[10:09] ... Peter P. Yim: @MarcelaVegetti - skype issues may be more local ... we've got plenty of skype

participants online now - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_03#nid4B66

[10:11] ... Marcela Vegetti: thanks @Peter. Problem solved. I'm now connected

[10:09] Peter P. Yim: == Matthew West presenting on "Overcoming Ontology Engineering Bottlenecks: Synthesis-II" on behalf of the Track-C co-champions ...

[10:12] anonymous morphed into Lamar Henderson

[10:16] Jack Ring: Has anyone devised an ontology regarding 'about ontologies' wherein we might find

factors such as purpose, reuse, lattice, perspectives (designer, user, reused, etc.), size, degree

of complexness, modularity, etc.?

[10:20] Andrea Westerinen: @JackRing [10:16] I would like to evolve VOCREF into such an ontology.

[10:23] Amanda Vizedom: Yes, Jack [10:16], VOCREF of course doesn't cover all of this YET, after 1

weekend hackathon, but it does already cover some, and others are identified as to-do in the issue

tracker, and more should be added. That's precisely where we want it to go, as Andrea said [13:20].

It is now stood up for continuing, collaborative, open-source-style development.

[10:17] Jack Ring: Slide 8, Test, test, test is grossly inadequate, c.f., the dismal results of software test.

[10:23] GaryBergCross: @MatthewWest [re. slide#9] On this "The first priority is identity (same name

same thing) not semantics" Do we have the same things without semantics?

[10:30] Matthew West: @GaryBergCross - Some of my friends talk about "a list of famous names". At the

base level, you don't even have definitions of terms, which can lead to ambiguity. So a set of terms

with text definitions (intended interpretations) is actually quite useful.

[10:34] GaryBergCross: @MatthewWest, the term with text discussion sound like something to establish

an informal conceptual space, but people involved in this exchange have some interpretation using

their internal semantics. What I take it you mean is no attempt at formal semantics.

[10:25] Francesca Quattri: "why are ontologies in English?" (from Matthew's slide#12). This opens up

a huge market / demand for reusability of ontologies as developed into other languages other than

English, and highlights the point of translation reliability / bottlenecks in translation of

ontologies. Should we maybe also present the topic as a "challenge"?

[10:28] Alex Shkotin: We have ontology in English and Russian with equivalentClasses for terms - it works:-)

[10:29] GaryBergCross: On this english term issue, it is worth noting that Wikipedia has separate

versions by language and they are not translations, but populated by native speakers. Hence DBpedias

from these may vary...

[10:31] Amanda Vizedom: @GaryBergCross [10:29] One of Wikidata's goals is to create more content

reusability across the language-specific Wikipedias by adding ontology-like conceptual structures

with multilingual lexification.

[10:32] Matthew West: @FrancescaQuattri: Actually I think there is an opportunity for an ontology

module that supports name/language pair sets for IDs.

[10:34] Andrea Westerinen: @MatthewWest [10:32] +1

[10:34] Andrea Westerinen: @AlexShkotin and @FrancescaQuattri [10:25] Is it necessary to have 2

ontologies or 1 ontology with labels, comments, etc. in different xml:langs? I would prefer the

latter since you don't want disconnects.

[10:36] Francesca Quattri: @AndreaWesterinen and @MatthewWest: Andrea, I agree, the second options

sounds definitely more appealing. Then a big issue to highlight in our Summary also relates to

translation reliability.

[10:39] Alex Shkotin: @AndreaWesterinen labels are not a part of logic. We use terms native for

natural language and use OWL2 operations to describe relationships. It's good for us as we have

bilingual dictionary.

[10:39] Leo Obrst: @FrancescaQuattri and others: I think you will always need vocabularies linked to

ontologies, with the vocabularies in possibly distinct languages (locally, these can be distinct

labels in the ontologies), but we must take care not to introduce another source of

discrepancy/non-reusability by focusing on the natural languages of ontologies, since really it is

the logic of the latter that is important.

[10:40] Andrea Westerinen: @FrancescaQuattri [10:36] Yes, I have some experience with this ... adding

a Spanish translation to an ontology. So, had translations only in an ontology file that built on

the original definitions. All triples were loaded into the database and queries assumed that a

language was set and passed this as input in each query. So, it really didn't matter what language

was used to define the original as long as you had a native speaker to do the translation. Similar

to any localization project.

[10:41] Amanda Vizedom: Francesca & all: I think there are two issues which should be separated,

here. (1) is the language, if any, in which the concepts in the ontology are lexified and annotated.

This is the easy part, really, because any concept can have annotations and lexificiation in

arbitrarily many languages, and languages can be selected for view/use. (2) is the language, if any,

in which concepts in the ontology are *named*. If developers rely on concept *names* for human

readable (perhaps because of tool limitations), then one language will dominate, and it is harder to

make the ontology as usable in another language.

[10:41] Andrea Westerinen: The problem then comes down to MT.

[10:42] Andrea Westerinen: @AmandaVizedom [10:41] I am not sure that I agree. The issue is tooling

and MT. If everything comes down to documentation and metadata, the original ontology language does

not matter. SMOT (simple matter of tooling) :-)

[10:42] Simon Spero: SKOS mapping relations arrived via many decades of prior art, not all of which

was ignored

{{{ [10:44] Amanda Vizedom: {continuing my [10:41])... I have worked with one project that very successfully used a very large ontology with developers / users in multiple languages & localizations. This was successful and made original language not so relevant, because the project also used hexadec concept IDs (making it impossible to rely on names, rather than labels) and had in-house built tools, for devs and users, that showed ID with label in lang-loc of choice. }}}

[10:47] Amanda Vizedom: @AndreaWesterinen [10:42] I agree about tools. The tools mentioned in my

[10:44] enabled making issue (2) [10:41], the original language, irrelevant. That's not so easy to

do with standard tools/methods.

[10:54] Francesca Quattri: @AmandaVizedom: any chance to know more about the project mentioned above?

[10:58] Amanda Vizedom: @FrancescaQuattri, Yes and No. It was proprietary, though some aspects are

not unique to them and are more publicly known within the relevant technology communities. It was

for Convera, which no longer exists. The core tech and team are now part of Vertical Search Works.

They have published some descriptions of the approach, with most depth in the areas where they have

patented their particular take on (part of) the process.

[11:00] Francesca Quattri: @AmandaVizedom: thank you for the info

[10:49] Alex Shkotin: @AmandaVizedom, have a look at our bi-lingual ontology

http://earth.jscc.ru/webprotege/#dic

[10:22] Peter P. Yim: == Anne Thessen presenting on "Tackling the Variety Problem in Big Data:

Synthesis-II" on behalf of the Track-D co-champions ...

[10:33] Jack Ring: Slide 4. More than pattern matching, pattern discovery (even if not looking for

'it')

[10:33] Peter P. Yim: == Anatoly Levenchuk presenting a Summary Report on the OntologySummit2014_Hackathon

on behalf of the Track-E co-champions and the Hackathon Project Leads ...

[10:51] Till Mossakowski: Ontohub hackathon: we did mainly different bugfixes

[10:51] Till Mossakowski: These bugfixes were mainly related to the integration of git repositories

and the web portal

[10:53] Peter P. Yim: see links to Hackathon details under:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_03#nid4BEE

[11:00] Peter P. Yim: @ALL Hackathon Leads - if you are planning to do a demo during the

OntologySummit2014_Symposium, please let the symposium organizers know, and make sure you take a

look at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VirtualSpeakerSessionTips#nid3IUY ... and prepare accordingly

[10:57] Peter P. Yim: == Open Discussion on ideas to optimally fit the above material into the adopted

Communique outline, and the positions we want to assume in this year's communique ...

[10:59] anonymous1 morphed into Lamar Henderson

[10:59] GaryBergCross: [re. the Communique Outline] Under 'Sharable and Reusable Ontologies' we

might include some examples of Best Practices.

[11:13] Andrea Westerinen: @GaryBergCross [10:59] We have some (very few) examples of suggestions

and best practices in our Track A synthesis, but we certainly could do more. Also, we could make

this a work item in the IAOA SIG.

[11:01] GaryBergCross: The outline has no sub-topic of things like use of ODPs or lightweight

ontologies.

[11:02] GaryBergCross: (to MichaelGruninger's verbal response on the above remark, that we will be

getting to that next level of detail when we start seeing a draft of the Communique next week)

Sure...

[11:03] Terry Longstreth: @AmandaVizedom - follow-up on your dialogue with Francesca at [10:54] - Did

you discover developers memorizing the x' labels, expecting their referents to be invariant?

[11:15] Amanda Vizedom: @TerryLongstreth, no. But even the normal way of viewing the ontology while

coding would show you both hex ID and label (in selected language) and sometimes the label in that

language for an appropriate parent, where the label is also a label for other concepts in that

language. So, for example, in en-us, you might see a node as "gen.00BT7(Dog(Mammal))" <-- made up

example, I have no idea what the ID is for that concept in that ontology.

[11:10] Peter P. Yim: I have a feeling we are not addressing current "Big Data" practitioners, who could

be data analytics people, adequately ... we almost haven't had a chance to see, for example, any

case where an application that applied both mathematical models and semantic models, or the former

taking advantage of the latter

[11:14] Martin Davtyan: @PeterYim, absolutely agree! There are some cases in Big Data practice which

LOOK like ontology engineering, for example Graphical Models for genes, which are reused and shared

and collaboratively created just like ontologies. I've spent a lot of time trying to research this

exact problem and still searching.

[11:15] GaryBergCross: @PeterYim [14:10] I agree that we haven't addressed Big Data issues directly

enough with enough examples.

[11:11] Terry Longstreth: @AndreaWesterinen - how do we validate the equivalence of semantics

captured by different syntaxes?

[11:14] Alex Shkotin: @TerryLongstreth, It may be something like translation

http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/agbkb/forschung/formal_methods/CoFI/hets/index_e.htm

[11:15] Andrea Westerinen: @TerryLongstreth [11:11] I think that this is another function of tooling

and testing. But, today, it is manual and just like guaranteeing that you have the right language

translation. However, this would be a great topic to explore further. Could you do similarity

analysis, etc.? I think so ... kind of like concept mapping.

[11:13] GaryBergCross: In terms of things I heard today to include in the communique I would suggest

we include the point that Track C (@MatthewWest) made about addressing the level of semantics needed

by various types of Application Domains.

[11:15] Anne Thessen: [responding to the verbal discussion of @PeterYim [11:10], and the request that

Track-D might develop more in their write-up to address that, and for AnneThessen's comment (since

Ken Baclawski is not present)] I am still here

[11:15] Anne Thessen: Please capture that in the chat. I had to leave to get some water and I missed

some of that. .... [ see: @PeterYim [11:10] ]

[11:15] Anne Thessen: I need to not talk anymore. My voice is about gone.

[11:17] Leo Obrst: There is an emerging "buzz" term called "deep learning" which addresses the

interpretations behind big data, i.e., correlations and patterns, and these must include

knowledge-based methods and ontologies, because of causal and explanation needs. Maybe Track D would

contribute some input on this, if they consider it important.

[11:20] Dominique Mariko: @PeterYim [11:10] I started reading this today, don't know if it could be

of any help : logistic regression model for predicting the singleton/coreferent distinction, drawing

on linguistic insights about how discourse entity lifespans are affected by syntactic and semantic

features : http://nlp.stanford.edu/pubs/discourse-referent-lifespans.pdf

[11:21] Dominique Mariko: Don't have the audio plug-sorry

[11:26] Peter P. Yim: @DominiqueMariko - thank you for the input ... would be great if you can capture

that (if appropriate) and/or additional thoughts to the page at:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Tackling_Variety_In_BigData_CommunityInput

[11:28] Dominique Mariko: @PeterYim OK.

[11:19] GaryBergCross: Hackathons can illustrate practices, tools and how one uses ontologies.

[11:21] Anatoly Levenchuk: @GaryBergCross: many Hackathon project not finished yet! Not only final

reporting but actual work! But we already have valuable observation in Hackathon project content.

[11:23] Andrea Westerinen: I would encourage everyone to read the Track A synthesis and suggest where

we should expand the topics and examples. I will update to bring in the dialog on the "reuseful"

email which is getting lots of good discussion.

[11:24] GaryBergCross: Track A synthesis at

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Common_Reusable_Semantic_Content_Synthesis

[11:17] Peter P. Yim: @ALL: as announced by our Symposium co-chairs, Dr. Ram Sriram & Professor Tim Finin

our Apr 28~29 Symposium (at NSF in Greater Washington DC) is now open for registration. Please

register yourself ASAP, as capacity is limited - see OntologySummit2014_Symposium details at:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Symposium ... Note the Apr-4 (5pm ET)

deadline for reserving blocked hotel rooms for the Ontology Summit Symposium at the group pricing

- ref. details under:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/WorkshopRegistration#nid49ZL ... Register

for the Symposium NOW, if you haven't already!

- see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/WorkshopRegistration

[11:26] Peter P. Yim: @ALL: Please mark your calendars and reserve this same time for the next two

Thursdays, when we will be working on getting the OntologySummit2014_Communique reviewed and

finalized during those two virtual sessions. In particular ... Session-13 will be up next Thursday -

2014_04_10 - Thursday: Ontology Summit 2014: session-13: Communique Review - Session Co-chairs:

Michael Grüninger & Leo Obrst - Panelists: All Contributing Editors - ref. developing details at:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_10 and

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Communique/Draft

[11:27] Peter P. Yim: @org-comm members, Reminder to those in the organizing committee, our next meeting

(n.10) is coming up tomorrow - Fri 2014.04.04 - see:

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/GettingOrganized#nid4ANC

[11:27] Peter P. Yim: Very productive session ... thank you ALL!

[11:27] Ed Bernot: Great session, thanks!

[11:28] Leo Obrst: Thanks, all!

[11:28] Dominique Mariko: Thanks all!

[11:27] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 11:24 am PDT --

-- end of in-session chat-transcript --

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Conference Call Details

  • Date: Thursday, 3-Apr-2014
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